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posted on 6-10-2010 at 12:52 PM Edit Post Reply With Quote
Gyration Media center remote with eJukebox

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I use a Gyration remote to control eJukebox. But some essential buttons are not working in eJukebox with the internal player: (currently I'm forced to use the mouse feature of the remote!)
- Stop, OK
>| Next song, OK
|< Previous song, OK

> Play, Not OK
|| Pause, Not OK
>> Forward, Not OK
<< Rewind, Not OK

All these buttons are fully functional (natively) in Windows Media Center.

Can you make something for eJukebox?

Thanks.

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posted on 6-10-2010 at 11:17 PM Edit Post Reply With Quote
well I've made some searches.. it seems this Gyration remote can work with a "HID" plugin.
I found 2 HID plugins, one for Winamp and another for Windows Media player, from the same author. It's shareware.. but working for free with the more basic commands.
The Winamp version seems to work a little better, and the Windows media player version doesn't work at all with eJukebox.

You can found these HID plugins on the Deepsoftware site

so now using Winamp, I get these commands in eJukebox:
Play, Pause, Stop, Previous, Next.
Forward end Backward are not working reliably.

Probably it could work better using Girder, but now that Girder is not free...
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thumbup.gif posted on 6-11-2010 at 01:59 PM Edit Post Reply With Quote
EventGhost

OK.. I found the new "girder": now that's EventGhost which can do this job for me.
EventGhost seems to be perfect with a lot of possibilities. It is similar to what was Girder in the past... so I just need to mount my own sauce for eJukebox! :)

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There is a problem when I make my macros with EventGhost for eJukebox: CTRL+[ doesn't work in EventGhost. (syntax error!) and CTRL+P bring up the Printer box...

Could you add another shortcut for the play button?
Maybe SHIFT+CTRL+P or any other combination if you prefer?

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posted on 6-11-2010 at 11:38 PM Edit Post Reply With Quote
still no joy.. I think SHIFT+CTRL+P as shortcut for the Play button would save me!
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posted on 6-12-2010 at 07:27 PM Edit Post Reply With Quote
Audiosoft,

I can't send any command to eJukebox with my Gyration remote through EventGhost. Any idea??

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posted on 6-12-2010 at 07:43 PM Edit Post Reply With Quote
Pirk,

Can't you set it to the standard media keyboard keys?
those should work even when EJ is minimized.

MEDIA_NEXT_TRACK = 176
MEDIA_PLAY_PAUSE = 179
MEDIA_PREV_TRACK = 177
MEDIA_STOP = 178
VOLUME_UP = 175
VOLUME_MUTE = 173
VOLUME_DOWN = 174




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posted on 6-12-2010 at 07:50 PM Edit Post Reply With Quote
My media keyboard is working fine with eJukebox. But it's a keyboard, not a remote control.. It's not the same use, I think. I can't move with my keyboard in hands!
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posted on 6-12-2010 at 08:02 PM Edit Post Reply With Quote
;) i see that it doesn't like [ but can't you set the remote to use the media keys?



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posted on 6-12-2010 at 08:05 PM Edit Post Reply With Quote
Thanks for these codes. I will try that too.

Do you think eJukebox should work with a MCE remote? because my Gyration remote is sensed to be a Media Center remote (My Gyration works fine in the Windows media center). There is no standard for that?
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posted on 6-12-2010 at 08:15 PM Edit Post Reply With Quote
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;) i see that it doesn't like [ but can't you set the remote to use the media keys?


Well, probably that could be a solution too. but I don't know how to do that in EventGhost.. :(

The Gyration remote in PC mode is working like a (windows) MCE remote, additionnaly the mouse feature of the remote is working like a air mouse! :)
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posted on 6-12-2010 at 09:33 PM Edit Post Reply With Quote
Audiosoft,

How the HECK, using my Gyration remote these buttons are working in eJukebox with the internal player:
. Stop
>| Next song
|< Previous song

While these other buttons are Not Working?
|> Play
|| Pause
>> Forward
<< Rewind

How this is possible?
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posted on 6-12-2010 at 10:02 PM Edit Post Reply With Quote
Well, finally I think I'll keep Winamp with the DeepSoftware HID plugin. At least this solution gives me the standard play controls..

However if anyone, God, or a any programmer, can make so that the Gyration works directly with eJukebox (internal player). I'm interested! :cool:
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posted on 6-12-2010 at 10:19 PM Edit Post Reply With Quote
While these other buttons are Not Working in eJukebox?
|> Play
|| Pause
>> Forward
<< Rewind

How this is possible?

Maybe winamp and EJ are both getting them at the same time?
to find out see if internal player works with them.




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posted on 6-12-2010 at 10:27 PM Edit Post Reply With Quote
That's already with the internal player! using winamp as external player I have play, pause, stop, next and previous song working good.
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posted on 6-12-2010 at 10:57 PM Edit Post Reply With Quote
ok i suspect it would work with regular CTRL+P if you make EJ be the active window on screen before sending the key

also what is in the "use alternate method to generate key option"???

if needed will add global keys for play << and >> besides the multimedia keyboard keys:

SHIFT+CTRL+B Previous Song
SHIFT+CTRL+P Play/Pause
SHIFT+CTRL+N Next Song




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posted on 6-13-2010 at 11:04 AM Edit Post Reply With Quote
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ok i suspect it would work with regular CTRL+P if you make EJ be the active window on screen before sending the key

No chance, that doesn't work, neither with the real keyboard, neither through EnventGhost. I always get the Print box.
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also what is in the "use alternate method to generate key option"???

I don't know.. (it's just a check box). I also tried with this option checked, but it's not better.
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if needed will add global keys for play << and >> besides the multimedia keyboard keys:
SHIFT+CTRL+B Previous Song
SHIFT+CTRL+P Play/Pause
SHIFT+CTRL+N Next Song

Ah great! but I have another BIG problem with EventGhost. I don't know on which eJukebox window I should send the emulated keystrokes? Because until now I don't have any success in sending keys to eJukebox through EventGhost. Maybe can you help me on that?

In the past there was no problem sending commands to eJukebox using another software: PC Remote Control. but it seems PCRC is no more updated.. and there is no option for HID protocol.

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posted on 6-13-2010 at 04:17 PM Edit Post Reply With Quote
I managed to send a message in the search box of EJ with my Gyration remote, but it's not the first purpose! ;)
Where is the "door" for keyboard shortcuts ? :o

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The door is the EJukebox process itself
but the regular keys only work while EJ it the top most window
so will add global SHIFT keys but probably should not use P since print is showing and we know [ is no good in your controller app




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posted on 6-14-2010 at 12:33 PM Edit Post Reply With Quote
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can't you set the remote to use the media keys?

I don't know if EventGhost can do that? It seems it's only possible to emulate the regular keys of a keyboard.

The Gyration remote is a "MCE" remote, so it ALREADY has its own media keys which are working great (natively, without any driver or additional software) in Windows Media Center. I think it's eJukebox which doesn't "understand" the media keys of this kind of remote (with the big Green button!).
Maybe you could investigate in this direction. I think there is probably a standard for that from Microsoft. You already caught the media keys of Multimedia keyboards, I hope you can also capture the media keys of MCE remotes. eJukebox will spread even more easily! :cool:

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The door is the EJukebox process itself
but the regular keys only work while EJ it the top most window
so will add global SHIFT keys but probably should not use P since print is showing and we know [ is no good in your controller app

well I managed to send [ to Notepad with EventGhost using the code "Oem4" and a US English keyboard (emulated)!! but you will agree with me: that's not the panacea. Especially that CTRL+Oem4 still doesn't work in eJukebox. -> LINK
NONE of the eJukebox shortcuts works when it is emulated through EventGhost. Even if eJukebox is set as the "top most window" before sending the emulated key. :o

If you want to test with eJukebox, you can find EventGhost here: http://www.eventghost.org/
Even if you don't have any remote for your PC, you can try to send emulated keystrokes in EventGhost.. and see if eJukebox receives its keyboard shortcuts or not!

I'm not sure that adding SHIFT+ will be sufficient..

Thank You very much!
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posted on 6-14-2010 at 06:18 PM Edit Post Reply With Quote
I just found this: http://forum.team-mediaportal.com/offtopic-57/emulate-any-multimedia-key-eventghost-35181/

It's very interesting but still not working for me in eJukebox. maybe I am doing something not good..
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Note To Audiosoft: How To Remote control eJukebox!

Using the Remote Control Device with Windows: http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms867196.aspx

Audiosoft, maybe could you manage these commands in eJukebox?

Thanks.
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posted on 6-16-2010 at 02:25 PM Edit Post Reply With Quote
well I managed to send Play commands to eJukebox from my Gyration remote. but my method is quite fussy! I used 2 softwares..
1) EventGhost captures the Gyration Play button
2) EventGhost finds the eJukebox window
3) EventGhost brings it to front
4) EventGhost starts the second application "AutoHotkeys"
5) AutoHotkeys executes a script
6) This script send the Play command {Media_Play_Pause} to eJukebox!
7) eJukebox plays the music!

Audiosoft, if you could make that directly in eJukebox... :D

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posted on 6-16-2010 at 07:33 PM Edit Post Reply With Quote
-Reading this link: http://forum.team-mediaportal.com/offtopic-57/emulate-any-multimedia-key-eventghost-35181/

-I followed the example: [desired command] * 65536
APPCOMMAND_MEDIA_PLAY_PAUSE -> 14
14 * 65536 = 917504

-So normally this action should work in EventGhost:
<Action>
Window.SendMessage(793, 0, 917504, 0)
</Action>

-But that doesn't work in eJukebox...

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posted on 6-16-2010 at 07:49 PM Edit Post Reply With Quote
More to read about the Gyration remote: http://mediacenterguides.com/advancedremotes#Gyration



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Audiosoft,

Maybe can you answer to this: http://www.eventghost.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=2579&p=15041#p15041

Thanks!




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posted on 6-17-2010 at 09:18 PM Edit Post Reply With Quote
Pirk here is v5.17 with the new global keyboard shortcuts
What's new
-added < Load Playlist output method button to List Builder
-List Builder's genre and artist list boxes are now taller if screen height > 600
-Updated alert message for Windows7 when using Large Fonts DPI with XP scaling checked
-added global Keyboard shortcuts that will work even when EJukebox is not focused:
SHIFT+CTRL+B Previous Song REV
SHIFT+CTRL+P Play/Pause
SHIFT+CTRL+N Next Song FF




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posted on 6-18-2010 at 01:17 PM Edit Post Reply With Quote
v5.17

Thanks a lot Audiosoft for your work on this update. The playlist button in the List Builder is very handy!

About the global keyboard shortcuts: well..
SHIFT+CTRL+P: not working for me in eJukebox through EventGhost. and if I send this command when Firefox is the front window, a private browsing session is open in Firefox!
SHIFT+CTRL+B: not working through EventGhost. and it also starts something in Firefox..
SHIFT+CTRL+N: not working either through EventGhost.

I think that was not a so good idea to add SHIFT+.. I'm sorry for this bad suggestion.
eJukebox and EventGhost:
Maybe it's also a bad idea to try to use this brilliant tool with eJukebox. I don't know why eJukebox doesn't understand the commands sended by EventGhost. Maybe this problem only occurs for me? Have you tried EventGhost with EJ, Audiosoft?

IMPORTANT NOTE:
If I DON'T use EventGhost (program completely closed) or any other tool of the same genre, just my Gyration in Windows 7. I have 3 buttons of the Gyration remote which are working good with eJukebox, in any case: STOP, PREVIOUS SONG, NEXT SONG.
Why these buttons are working good, and why not the others?!




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posted on 6-18-2010 at 01:34 PM Edit Post Reply With Quote
I am not sure...maybe check that it is sending both Keyup and Keydown. and try sending those keys to a different app while EJukebox is running

Haven't tried it myself yet from that app. Do you have a link to download event ghost?




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posted on 6-18-2010 at 01:41 PM Edit Post Reply With Quote
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