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posted on 2-9-2007 at 12:34 AM
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Are you ready for a GOOD eJukebox SKIN?
eJukebox needs a good skin, no?
I think the interest in eJukebox would be increased tenfold with a real good looking skin, but are you ready to reward the skin designers for this
difficult work?
If yes, how many would you pay for a good looking skin?
If no, I think eJukebox will never really take off.. unless if eJukebox was a freeware!
Explain your opinion.
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posted on 2-9-2007 at 11:53 AM
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Actually I think it is the other way around. I don't think your skin will take off, unless it is freeware. There are already a few nice skins for
ejukebox, which I think most users would prefer above a skin that costs money. But, if you need empirical evidence for this I am not going to stop
your data collection :b
Since I am the first to answer this survey: I am not willing to pay for a good ejukebox skin. Two reasons which pops to mind:
1. I am not willing to pay while there are several skins free of charge. So as long as the Bluej skin, Arctic skin, silvertunes skin and bitsumu skins
are free, which I bet they will continue to be. I would choose one of them even if your skin looked like the garden of eden (may I have a look? You
have certainly raised the expectations), cooked coffee for me at heavy mornings or rubbed my back when I was begging for it.
2. I am not willing to pay for a small visual improvement as skins at the end of the day offer. I could be willing to pay for additional functionality
in ejukebox, such as heavy improvements to the homeview, albumlist etc. This is something skins can not offer.
Of course I can not state that everyone around feels the same about this as I do. It is an interesting discussion, but I think we are heading in the
wrong direction if we were to demand cash for skins.
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posted on 2-9-2007 at 02:31 PM
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The thing is that when it's totally free you can have 1000, 2000 or more downloads, but no feedback from these thousands users who have downloaded
the skin!! Any feedback is really gratifying, I don't think Audiosoft will say the opposite! I think the least that users should do would be to tell
what they like or don't like. I just would see money (or any other kind of exchange?) as a compensation for lack of feedback in the forums..
Audiosoft already works a bit like this!! This is why my skin would be free for those who actively support me, but charged for the others! Only, for
that the skin needs to be protected against copy user by user, just like eJukebox.. or else bought once for all, by Audiosoft!
Of course the ideal would be that ALL can be free for everybody, like in the garden of eden.. 
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 posted on 2-9-2007 at 10:07 PM
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Here are 2 small view of my skin:
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 posted on 2-9-2007 at 10:09 PM
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What do you think?
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posted on 2-9-2007 at 10:14 PM
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looks interesting. really need to see the whole thing to have an opinion
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 posted on 2-9-2007 at 10:27 PM
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The whole thing:
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posted on 2-9-2007 at 10:59 PM
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Nice work Pirk! Allot of really nice elements! I am curious as to how the songlist would look if you put this in the songlist.dis
body {
filter: progid:DXImageTransform.Microsoft.gradient(enabled='true', startColorstr=#550000FF, endColorstr=#000000, GradientType=0)
progid:DXImageTransform.Microsoft.gradient(enabled='true', startColorstr=#000000, endColorstr=#110000FF, GradientType=1);
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posted on 2-9-2007 at 11:07 PM
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That looks like this:
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posted on 2-9-2007 at 11:30 PM
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It's more dark, but the transparency still works! Interesting no?
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posted on 2-9-2007 at 11:51 PM
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yeah.. I was playing around with that filter in BlueJ to see the effect on the background cover tiles.
Your skin looks good Pirk. I think all it needs is some streamlining to make it all blend together more. How does it look when you are looking at
only one artist's songs with the artistlist open?
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posted on 2-10-2007 at 12:29 AM
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Thanks Audiosoft.. I've worked hard on it!
More streamlining: You mean better shapes? This is precisely what I don't know how to make easily!  For example I think maybe my songlist header is too straight because it's just a photoshop effects combination..
I don't know how to make smooth rounded shapes?? (like your new songlist header)
Here is a full view with only a artist:
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posted on 2-10-2007 at 11:10 AM
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Here is another screenshot:
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posted on 2-10-2007 at 11:32 AM
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Another one..
Do you like it guys?
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posted on 2-10-2007 at 11:29 PM
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Either black or a slightly textured charcoal grey would be nice.
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posted on 2-11-2007 at 10:26 AM
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More black? well maybe.. I will see.
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posted on 2-11-2007 at 10:53 AM
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I must admit that I'm not liking the blue at all, sorry m8.
That's why I said a black or textured dark grey would be good.
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posted on 2-11-2007 at 07:16 PM
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Ahh.. ok! So I suppose you don't use the default skin!
I don't think I will change much colors for the time being. But maybe I will make a carbone version the next time.
Thanks for your opinion.
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posted on 2-11-2007 at 09:53 PM
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Pirk,
You should think about setting your skin free so that others can work on new versions based on it to add to your collection. Red+Blue may not be the
best color scheme.
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posted on 2-11-2007 at 10:19 PM
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OK Audiosoft. So WHO would like to work on my skin to improve it with a better color scheme and also a better streamlining?
Maybe you Audiosoft?? Because.. it's not easy!
If others are interested, you can tell me! You are welcome..
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posted on 2-12-2007 at 05:06 AM
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I wouldn't mind trying to create a new skin based on it. Basically just some color tweaking.
Maybe more, i am not sure, but it would be interesting to try some things out.
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posted on 2-12-2007 at 11:34 AM
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Audiosoft,
You said my skin needs some streamlining.. I would really appreciate some help for that too! 
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posted on 2-12-2007 at 07:01 PM
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Hey Pirk!
I think your skin looks really original! I did have a really long reply typed it up but got a database corruption error when I tried to post that I
have been getting a lot lately.
In short the slider on the artistlist sticks out a little bit and doesn't match the silver x and < buttons above the letters and the silver to
select the tab being displayed (Home etc.).
As you already mentioned the songlist header needs a little work. I really like the bar you created for the top of the songlist where it says Artist,
Play Now etc. Perhaps you could put the same style into the songlist header. I will post a few images you could also consider using that I think might
go well there. The first is one I came up with when making a mock up of the new music page a while back.
Hopefully that helps! Unfortunately I have never been to keen on skinning. Sorry it took so long for me to comment, I have been on a ski trip. Great
job Pirk!
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posted on 2-12-2007 at 07:41 PM
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Hi rllercstr7!
Thank you very much for your support. I appreciate a lot!
Even if you aren't keen on skinning, I think you could help me a bit if you have some free time.. I would need a few images:
1. A large background image in 800x1200 pixels for the songlist background (listback.jpg). This image is displayed in the songlist background when
there is no album cover tiled: long lists.. The image will appear behind the "frozen" surface of the songlist, so it needs to be quite
contrasted.
2. Maybe some icons for the other words (Artist, Song name, Rating, Year, Album) in the songlist header (like the note icon behind "New"). Well I
don't know if that will fit! If you have ideas..
3. Concerning the color scheme: You could edit one of the screenshots I've posted and just change the colors you don't like (buttons, bars..). Then
I will update the corresponding images for the skin.
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posted on 2-12-2007 at 07:54 PM
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Ok Pirk I will give it a shot and post when I have something. Here is kind of what I was trying to explain with the songlist.
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posted on 2-12-2007 at 08:05 PM
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OK, thanks rllercstr7.
Just a little thing: You say "songlist" in your posts.. but in fact you mean PLAYLIST! The Songlist is the part on the right of eJukebox. The
Playlist is the left part.
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posted on 2-12-2007 at 08:15 PM
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Yeah, sorry about that Pirk. Also I have and idea for the songlist background if it can be an animated gif. Do you know if thats possible?
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posted on 2-12-2007 at 08:20 PM
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yes animated gifs can be used for the background image. you can use animated gifs in the now playing, playlist, artistlist, songlist and albumlist. It
would be nice to have a skin with some animation effects even if it does use a little extra cpu.
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posted on 2-13-2007 at 12:22 AM
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Here are a couple backgroungs Pirk although I have no idea if they will look any good since I cant try them out. Neither are animated and I don't
know if I will get enough time to try that idea.
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posted on 2-13-2007 at 12:23 AM
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Another similar one.
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