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posted on 5-22-2009 at 03:30 PM
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Yeah, I agree, ultimately it's too cumbersome for users to drop in an individual file. Being able to just dump all various artist compilations in a
directory is much less time consuming. I suppose if I have to move file structure, I'd rather move things under 'various' of some sort, thus my
bias 
Another point though, as we move closer to 5. While there is no real Compilation flag standard, there are 2 that I see used most. 1 is itunes
compilation ITUNESCOMPILATION=1 and the other is straight up COMPILATION=1. Right now we are using ASNCOMP to define a compilation with in EJ, might
it be worth starting to use just COMPILATION instead to define a compilation within a tag? This would work among MP3 tags and FLACs and others. In
this way we can expand compatibility among taggers and should make it even easier for users to import their existing collections.
What do you guys think?
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Audiosoft
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posted on 5-22-2009 at 09:51 PM
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i will try to add support...can anyone upload files with these different compilation tags so i can test with them?
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Yogui
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posted on 5-23-2009 at 12:08 AM
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Mp3s n Comments
Hi!
May be when the DB rebuilds where we can select fix casing add a check box"Set Compilation Flags"
I think the rule should be something like:
If FullPath is *Compilation* or *Various Artists*
Set Flags etc
This is because only mp3s inside a perfect matching folder named should be flagged.
I've searched in my Music and found:
Folder:
Z:My MusicPhil Collins2004~Love Songs, A Compilation, Old And New (Disc 01)
File:
Z:My MusicSystem Of A Down2001~Know Your Enemy Bootleg23~Shame (Taken From Various Artists Album Loud Rock).mp3
May be other uses have more like this that should NOT be set as ASNCOMP = 1
Also attached zip containing 2 files before and after .86
Before the file were not compilations, after all is set to compilations.
BTW .86 worked great!!! 
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Audiosoft
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posted on 5-23-2009 at 12:25 AM
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Yogui, thanks for the tunes. don't really need files for ej's
asncomp...only itunes comp and any others.
btw i loaded them in ej and asncomp is not showing set on those files. must only be comp in your ej database because of various or compilation in the
filepath. ej only saves asncomp in mp3 tag when you use the editor and after it does auto cover lookup and find an album image.
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posted on 5-23-2009 at 01:18 AM
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Audiosoft
can anyone upload files with these different compilation tags so i can test with them? |
Here's a compilation=1 flag from MP3Tag. It's a manual extended tag that is read by squeezebox among others
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posted on 5-23-2009 at 01:20 AM
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Here's the itunes compilation fro tag&rename. I don't have iTunes installed, so I can't set the compilation check in the real program.
BTW this MP3 is a Creative Commons track I pulled down so no copyright worries.
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posted on 5-23-2009 at 01:23 AM
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FLAC tag with compilation Set
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posted on 5-23-2009 at 01:37 AM
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Flags
Hi ejukebox,
Is there any doc or info about which flags ejuke uses?
I've set ASNCOMP = 1 with Tag Renamer
http://www.mp3tag.de/en/
Then Rebuild the DB but did not set the flags and DB properly.
What am I doing wrong?
See Screen Shot:
Custom Flags can be edited on it extended tags (ALT+T) and custom Columns.
Cheers,
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Audiosoft
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posted on 5-23-2009 at 04:33 AM
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Thanks CiXel they will help!
Yogui, did you manually add asncomp to mptag or did it detect it?
it is in the id3 tag in the 'TXXX' frame with 'asncomp' as descriptor and the value is 1 or 0
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posted on 5-23-2009 at 11:31 AM
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This is the Comp flag directly set within iTunes.
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posted on 5-23-2009 at 11:54 AM
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Here''s a tag from dBPoweramp (COMPILATION=1)
I never actually checked if these COMP tags were sitting in the TCMP frame like iTunes.
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posted on 5-23-2009 at 12:23 PM
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Mod Flag
Hi ejukebox,
thanks for the detailed info about the flag.
What I did in http://www.mp3tag.de/en/ is:
i. Load Files in Compilation folder
ii. Select ALL
iii. Show extended Tags (Alt+T)
iv. Set flag as required i.e. ASNCOMP to 1 and leave rest as <Keep>
v. Repeat for other folders and/or flags as required
vi. On ejukebox installation folder delete (or BK rename) “ejuke.asn” and “db.m3u”
vii. Restart ejukebox and rebuild Database.
Did not change all of them to compilation when rebuilding.
Does the ASNALBUM has to match across the m3 files inside the comp or just the 1st file?
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posted on 5-23-2009 at 12:25 PM
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even more test
I've also used a mask to rename the ASN flags:
%Year%~%asnalbum%%track%~%asnArtist%~%title%
asnalbum and others had some weird chars (Unicode?)
Anyway, no joy again
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Audiosoft
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posted on 5-24-2009 at 05:46 AM
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Yogui, you should not change the weird characters in the asn tags!
can only change the ones with numbers. do not change asnartist, asnalbum, asnupc etc they are for storing the automatic cover lookup result only
and asnalbum and asnartist get used only if the regular artist and album field is not set in the tag.
i am not sure why your asncomps are not picking up.
have you tried using the ejukebox editor on an mp3 -> check compilation -> close editor -> then check that file in mp3tag
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posted on 5-24-2009 at 10:37 AM
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No worries it was a BK
Hi ejukebox,
No worries, I did copy the compilation folder before mess it up.
Sorry if I cause any trouble to other users with this method.
PLEASE ANYONE PLAYING WITH THIS TASG BACK UP THE FILES. 
I did build a DB with 5 compilation albums only, of which only 3 are ASNCOMP = 1 via ejukebox. I did not name the parent folder as compilation.
When I edit the ASNCOMP tag via mp3Tag it was not pick up on the next DB rebuild. Edit song has the Comp Check box UN CHECKed.
Even with the ASNCOMP = 1 (again via mp3Tag)
I've noticed that when I did it via ejukebox, and refresh the mp3tag panel, the ASNALBUM tag of the first song had been written again with the Weird
Chars.
Since .86 is working well I would not worry too much, but other users may appreciate the freedom of have their compilations on any folder name.
As I mentioned before I think that a check box "Write Compilation Flag" on the confirmation dialog to rebuild the DB would be useful.
There was also mentioned to read the itunes and/or other Compilation flags to set the album as compilation on ejuke.
This sounds a good option as well.
Cheers,
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posted on 6-14-2009 at 08:12 AM
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and again
Hi,
I just found that the album:
Love Songs, A Compilation, Old And New
By
Phil Collins
Was set as compilation.
Of course it contains the word/string as stated on
On v4.99.86 - May 20th, 2009
... -database rebuild/addnew now sets compilation flag when file pathname contains the word "compilation"
... -database rebuild/addnew now sets compilation flag when file pathname contains the word "various"
I report this as a bug because it's getting it wrong...
I think the files should be read as compilation only if:
1) A full Folder Name Match to Compilation, Compilations or Various Artist.
Even better extend it to a RegEx like:
(W*)(Compilation|Compilations|Various Artist)(W*)
(a backslash goes before the W non-alphanumeric) this would allow to name the folder _Compilation (or similar) which I found useful in order to have
it sorted at the top on the file explorer.
2) the ASNCOMP tag is actually blank or 1 (Non 0 which has been set by the user)
well my 2 cents
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posted on 6-14-2009 at 10:41 AM
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Well, false positives are bound to happen. I'd rather FIX the odd one it picks up as a compilation than to have to explicitly tag 100 compilation
albums as such.
That being said, if the path trigger was various artists instead of compilation, you wouldn't have seen that false positive.
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posted on 6-14-2009 at 11:16 AM
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aggree
yeah I'm happy with the feature 
Just what to make it more accurate.
Cheers, Yogui
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posted on 11-25-2009 at 05:42 AM
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I like the idea of storing as much information in the ID3 tags as possible such as the compilation flag. That way.
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posted on 4-26-2010 at 08:26 PM
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Revisiting this for a moment:
If I already have:
Compilation=1
in the MP3 tag, isn't EJ supposed to pick it up automatically and add its own
asncomp=1
So EJ now recognizes it as a compilation as well?
Currently it's not working this way, but I could be mistaken
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Audiosoft
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posted on 7-21-2010 at 09:42 AM
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EJukebox v5.24
-now reads/writes mp4 m4a Compilation flag
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posted on 7-21-2010 at 10:43 AM
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Sweet!
I'll rescan my library and see how we make out.
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posted on 7-30-2010 at 05:19 AM
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v5.26
-added read/write for FLAC compilation tag
v5.27
-now reads FLAC releasetype for compilation first and if not then compilation = 1 or 0
-added MP3 support for "MusicBrainz Album Type"
When "MusicBrainz Album Type" = "compilation" it sets it to compilation in EJ.... if not it uses the EJ version asncomp from the id3 tag.
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Audiosoft
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posted on 7-31-2010 at 05:45 AM
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v5.275 adds TCMP compilation read/write supported for MP3 tags.
EJ checks for mediabrainz album type = compilation and if not it checks for asncomp = 1 and if not then it reads TCMP.
EJ now writes TCMP along with asncomp from the compilation checkbox in the editor.
EJ also writes musicbrainz album type to album if musicbrainz is compilation when you uncheck compilation in the song editor. and writes musicbrainz
compilation if it reads album when you check compilation in the editor. EJ does this also for FLAC releasetype.
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