This is my wishlist for a future "hopefully" version of Ejukebox.


Those who've been reading this forum have seen the ideas of other people to better Ejukebox.. I still hope that Ejukebox will continue being the best jukebox program on the market.

-Being able to automatically generate top lists or album lists for your website, possibly in RSS

-A more complete web interface with album lists with thumbnails , easy navigation, FIREFOX SUPPORT, the ability to modify the web interface with CSS files. . If I had that ability I practically wouldn't use the main interface anymore...

-Being able to edit your mp3 files from a browser could effectively facilitate managing your collection and mass editing of songs.

-Also please fix the large image file problem in 2web 1.0 . It always generates a broken image. At least I set it to medium now and it works.

-There must be a way to keep a cache of the album list to not having it rebuilding every time, or maybe find a way to add what's new.

-Remote control support. I got a ATI Remote wonder and I'm dying to use it with Ejukebox. I can manage right now but it doesn't work with Ejukebox off focus and I can't change the "Up next" song with a hotkey.


I think features like these would be higher the bar for the competitors.

I encourage other users to add their own suggestions to this thread.

Nice initiative . These are the ones that pop into mind right now:

1. Pirks suggested extenstions to the autoplay modes.

2. Separate soundtrack heading in the albumlist (ala compilations)

3. Ability to use 300x300 images in now playing panel

4. Larger playcontrols. A previous button and the visualisation button situated at a place in the Ui where it's more difficult to execute by accident.

I am in total agreement, here.

The largest problem I have been having with the program is the amount of time the album list takes to build. Even with my dual 3.2GHz processors and 1GB of RAM, it takes more than 30 minutes to build the list and sometimes it completely locks up. I have already tried rebuilding the database several times, so I don't think that is it. I have 9,000+ MP3s.

i only have a 2.0ghz with 1gb of ram and it takes a minute 30 secs to load 16,000 mp3's.

i suggest a defrag, scandisk, some type of registry scanner.

i used to have the same problem cause it would take 30 mins to do the album list so i went through norton utilities and it went to a miute and a half.

The "do not play this mp3 in auto mode" function, for individual mp3s, albums and artists.

Corrosionx I also have an ATI Remote Wonder and am able to control eJukebox. In Winamp there is an option to allow hotkeys to work when it is not in focus. Then just program those keys into the remote. I haven't used the native ATI software in a long time, so I am not sure if it is capable of the key combos. I use a program called uICE instead and it does a fine job once you learn to use it. You can give it a try, here's the link: http://www.mediatexx.com/

Thanks for the tips..

I used uIce back in the days with a serial IR remote receiver... did weird stuff with my TV remote control..


Anyways I thought about a couple of other things.

-Being able to get the lyrics in the web interface (yes i copy the lyrics in my mp3s

-An extended custom mode for Autoplay. Where you can subscract more genres for autoplay then right now...

-Maybe even save the filters and change it on the fly... From the web interface too.

-Choosing playlists from the Web interface as well

-Direct download links for the web interface

-Some level of security and even a userbase for the web interface wouldn't be too much either, right?

-If somehow Ejukebox could get hotkeys from a command line interface, you could use it with a remote control software like uIce to control ejukebox even when its not in focus...

-Could rendering ejukebox in the overlay be possible? It would be nice to have ejukebox in my tv-out. Currently my Winamp Advanced Visualisation Studio renders in the overlay and it brings the nice trippy effects right on my tv...

-Mozilla support, PLEASE!!! Find some other way to do the Web interface than ActiveX. Make it anything else.. Then you could have EJukebox in a sidebar or in a tab! Much better than having a iexplore.exe running on my pc

Let's let it all out

I have to say I think this year might be make or break for eJukebox. There is so much competition now and with Media Centre PCs really taking off there is a lot of temptation. I think the core development must be speed and stability. For me I think it is already pretty stable but I know other people have issues. Speed though is a slight issue - you do get the feeling that its slightly clunky. I would love to see it streamlined. Anyway just my though ts.

By the way - happy new year everyone!

I'm almost afraid to add to a version 4 wishlist, because there's been no news on a release date. It makes me a bit nervous that the more we weigh things down, the less likely we are to get ANY forward motion.

Can we call this a version 5 wishlist and just hope for 4 soon?

Your concern is a shared one

It probably doesn't help their business scheme that the music engine, Winamp, is basically a dying product

After posting the last post, I thought I would check out the winamp site, and according to the forums AOL have employed some new coders, so maybe it isn't quite dead yet.

At least I hope not

All it needs is for winamp to play the mp3. Even if it dies it isn't a big setback. Just host an exe or install with Ejukebox.

God forbid

there is no other player out there with the simplicity and power of winamp (for the windows enviroment).

it is an excellent API for such a very small memory footprint, and therefore can support almost every audio format available, becuase of plugins and addons.

eJukebox is basically just a frontend to winamp. and an awesome one at that. there is not much that can be improved upon in the UI (imho).

there is only one place that could be developed that would make this application shine above all others ... and that is built-in multi-user capabilities. make eJukebox the frontend to a multi-user database of the music store (with album covers), each client running the frontend with real-time updates at every client.

If there are any <b>interests of it from the developers hand</b> (as the requested features forums kindof grows out of hand). I would like to see a collective effort to make a "summary" of all requested features for 4.0 in this thread... A top 50 wishlist or something..

That is if the program is still under development, but I am sure that the developers are professional enough to let their loyal users know if the opposite was true.. (sorry for my concerns)

No matter what happens I will personally use this brilliant software for years to come. As it over several aspects is, and will continue to be, superiour to all other software of this kind.

Where did you read that acknowledgement?

All I said is that SEEING one would be enough. It hasn't happened yet.

Ah.. Sorry my fault.. Misunderstood the sentence a little Agree 100 % by the way.

Thank you Audiosoft for implementing my request to have a time out for numbers of songs within numbers of seconds in kiosk mode.

My associated new request is that I be able to custom load the text that comes in the pop-up time out box.

i.e. "two songs max, please let someone else pick some songs"

or whatever . . .

THANKS!

* An easy way to export the albumlist and homeview to html..

* Possibility to switch through top albums in the homeview. So one can see number 6,7,8,9,10...n. Same goes for top songs. Maybe In the same way as the top artists works now.

* The 'artist field' in the songlist takes up a lot of room. Is it possible to reduce it a little? And use the gained space for songinformation, for instance durability and bitrates..

* An interesting discussion in this post
Both the design and having more than one 'up next song' seems appealing..

* Maybe a shuffle and random button in the play controls.

*Some of the functions from the playlist menu could be nice to have on rightclick in playlist. For instance 'clear playlist' 'randomize playlist' etc.

*Ability to disable the building of cache at the end of albumlist loading. Or even better, make the cache build without locking up the interface. This could increase speed of albumlist loading for huge album collections.

*Maybe a function which could clear all popularity stats from the mp3 tags. This could take a awful long time, but a warning could be included in the interface for this function.

*The suggested .ini file alike system for different sound formats. So editing and popularity stats for formats like ape, ogg and wma actually got saved.

That's a great list. Is Audiosoft not responding? I haven't been by in a while. I check the home page. Still 3.97. Does anyone have any info on a future ejuke? Or is it dead? That's too bad if true. The popularity list feature does not seem to be in any other player.

Thanks, Don

If you read a little of the latest posts, you'll see that it is still under development. Seems like 4.0 will be around April

Thanks Fishy,

I guess the posts I read were the wrong ones!!
http://www.audiosoft.net/forums/viewthread.php?tid=1156&page=1#pid5813

You see he went 16 days with nothing. Understandable to worry don't you think?

Good news!!

Thanks for responding... Gooooo eJukebox! My Video Jukebox keeps expanding and without eJ I could not handle them all.

Don

Yepp If you read some of my latest posts I you'll see that I was kindof worried myself.. I think most of the active forum members where quite happy after reading audiosoft latest posts. Why not posts a summary of your video requests in the 4.0 wishlist?

First of all, I agree with the streamlining suggestion. I have ejukebox on a P450 and with around 8000 songs and the artist list hangs quite often when scrolling. This brings me to my most desired feature: a way to reinstall immediately. I have 4 computers and would like to change to another at a whim. I understand the creators don't want their product stolen, but if it gets popular enough someone will make a key generator or crack anyway. Don't treat your paying customers like criminals. Maybe you could have a unique identifier for each customer's copy. Then, if it shows up on the net you could sue whoever shared their copy. Kind of like what they are doing with movies now. Sometimes piracy can be good advertisement also. Some who download it would pay. I'm guessing most of the people who bought it already would have paid for it even if it was pirated on the net. I know I would have.

T-MuG

* Make the 'hide duplicates' in songlist optional.

I recently discovered the J. River Media center (http://www.jrmediacenter.com/) and saw quite a few features that would be nice in eJukebox. First of all the biggest thing is that the program supports the major TV tuner brands for viewing TV. It would be awsome if eJukebox could do this for those of us with tuner cards. It also has a mode you can enter made just for remotes and touch screens with huge buttons. It allows password protecting private content if you don't want it visible. Those are the two biggest things I would like to see in the future. Here is a picture of the theater interface with big buttons.

I hope some time is put into the kiosk mode. I installed one for a hotel in the Los Angeles area and it made a hit. I have two more pending orders in california. You would be surprised how good the demand is for a jukebox with a basicly unlimited song capacity. and easy to use interface.

Thanks
Slimysam

Just fooled a little around with the program mentioned above. It got a few features that I liked and quite a few issues I din't like. The features I liked was the ability to have *huge* images in the albumlist, as well being able to resize both the right and left panel.

Hopefully audiosoft will be able to do something about the albumlist resizeability and imagesizes when the work with the left panel and autolookup module is done
Maybe a larger edv would do the trick 1280x1024 or even 1600x1200. Go crazy

Like most people I have duplicate tracks, due to compilations. It would be nice if you could store the track only once and link it to all albums that contain it, thus saving valuable HD space.

I do this all the time. But then again, I have all my MP3s on a hard disk formatted with the Linux ext3 file system, where this linking is done directly by the file system.

But there is another problem: Even if the same track appears on several compilations, it will usually differ in some way (different mastering, different volume) so when you link tracks, then you may end up with sudden jumps in sound quality or volume.

I really would like to set the default Cover file... mine are called "folder.jpg", not "cover.jpg", and I don't intend to rename them all, because XP uses "folder.jpg" as well...

Speaking of the options dialogue: One central options dialogue would be nice, too. Everything is so cluttered.
It's the best looking, but also the hardest to work with I've seen.

Also, speed up the product, if possible, please.

> OK for "folder.jpg", if we keep "cover.jpg" too!
The best would be that the user can specify the name(s) he wants to use.


> Central options dialogue:
I think you are right. That would be more easy to add more options to eJukebox if the program would use the Windows standard boxes.
Maybe the core used by Audiosoft to program eJukebox is too old to display Windows XP style boxes? I don't know.
Unless that is intentional! I love the "Audiosoft style", but concerning the option menus maybe it's not essential? If that can speed up the program development...

Be that as it may, now there are many options, I think they would need more space to appear clearly, for the new users essentially!
Also now that the left pannel is resizable, when you enlarge it, the options pannel remain centred and appear as a bit cramped.

Maybe the version 4 would be the occasion to pass to standard options boxes?
That apply to:
- the program options (currently over the playlist)
- the albumlist options (?)
- the editor too?

Thank you for your participation Mr Jones.

up!

* Get rid of the uneccassary (?) pause after shutting down ejukebox. As far as I can see this pause doesn't serve any purpose. My asn file doesn't grow to weird sizes, even though I have had to kill ejukebox from the taskmanager several times. Because it tends to hang and use all available cpu power on shutdown. The albumlist is cached while running the program anyhow, ratings are saved to tags. So my question is do we need this pause anymore? I've consistently killed ejukebox lately, and do not have any problems related to this. I hope it's not related to any psychopatalogy, just to the fact that this delay is not needed

I must confess that I also kill eJukebox when I'm in a hurry...

me 3. It hangs my computer on shutdown a lot.

Not sure if this have been mentioned before but I'll mention it in any case. I would like to see another tab / listing of our saved playlists and songs within the playlist. I'm starting to create a few and it would be nice to see them listed (as in the album view tab). The file open dialog is old / windows like. Adding a separate tab that you can then browse the playlist songs would make the playlist function much cleaner looking and more integrated into the overall product. Just my two cents.

I think when running in full screen mode it would be nice if it could show the clock.

I've made a preview of what it might could look like. Up in the right corner. It could be up in the middle center. What do you guys think?
http://www.home.no/nacho/other/scrnshot9.jpg

An by the way, what do you think of my "nocover.jpg"
image? I think it looks more stylish than the original headbanging animation. No offense. I think the eJ logo should appear some other place instead.

I for one don't like thinking about time and the clock when trying to relax with music Seriously I don't like the thought of including items that are not relevant for ejukebox in the interface. It could clutter the interface and make it more confusing. However, I would not be against including some other relevant item in the suggested location (amount of albums in the list etc.).

I like your nocover.jpg image. Could you attach it in the forums? I might just as well include it in the arctic skin archive.

It would just be nice if there where a clock and when you moved your cursor over it, then the day,month,year should show..

i view at the clock very often. And i hate to wear wrist watch, and dont have a clock on my wall in the living room... soooo..

and when i'm going to use the jukebox, it is going to be in full screen and sometimes in kiosk mode.. and it would look stupid if i can se the windows taskbar where the clock shows down in the right corner..

But if some dont like it, you should be able to turn it off..

Btw, I will make a new topic in the skin area with the nocover.jpg

Audiosoft:

Don't want to be stubborn, but I am getting more and more sure about that the database compression after ejukebox shutdown is not needed.

1. The database size is constant (even if I kill ejukebox consequently every time I shut it down).

2. All ratings/popularity stats are kept.

3. Several users have the same experiences.

Maybe you could add an option to remove it in the next version and see if anyone reports any problems? I am almost willing to give away a few fingers to see this behaviour disappear. It is really painful when you have a large database. Are there any good reasons to keep this process that I am not aware of?

The database file size would get allot bigger if it no longer compressed the database. However, database compression is not the only thing done on shutdown. It also usually needs to update a few tags. If you kill eJukebox.exe it will just have allot more tags to update on the next shutdown. Believe me if it didn't have a purpose it wouldn't do it. When you shutdown windows with eJukebox open it skips the tag update and compression so that eJukebox.exe exits right away and windows shuts down. Tag updates that have not been done roll over until next eJukebox shutdown.

Pirk,

I don't think you need to click restart twice because of eJukebox since it exits right away. There was probally another program running on your system that didn't let windows shutdown the first time.

Well, maybe you are right Audiosoft, but this problem ONLY occurs if eJukebox is still running when I shutdown my PC. Yes indeed, eJukebox (and the other possible programs) close down right away, but not my PC!

If I kill eJukebox - or if I take the time to close it normally, and that I wait until it has finished its odds and ends... - before to shutdown my PC then I don't have this problem. So every time that I'm in a hurry I kill eJ.. And I only need to kill eJ, not Winamp or any other program.

However I will try to check more.. though I'm sure since I suffer that almost every day!

But it if it is compacting the database? Why is the database size constant (unless I add albums)? Even if I let it compact or not? Once in a while I let ej finish normally and I can't see any functionality at that point.

Can you give me some details on which tags are updated?
You know every detail about this program, but I have not missed any tags related to: the internal editor, popularity, rating etc. due to this. So I can't see what tags I am missing due to killing ejukebox.

Sorry, but I am not convinced that ej would not function fine without the database compacting And it is really not enjoyable in a 3000 album database.

Fishy,

Are you sure the database stays the same size? Maybe it stays smaller due to getting compressed already. Also, the compression does not work on Win98.

The tags that sometime need to be updated at shutdown are popularity and automatic album cover lookups, especially after using the album list "Lookup Missing Covers" button. But as I said even if you kill ejukebox.exe it will pickup where it left off on next shutdown so your tags are up to date incase you need to rebuild.

If you just let ejukebox.exe finish up after shutdown it shouldn't take that long. If it finishes succesfully that means less of a wait the next time you shutdown eJukebox.

My wish:
-Top album cover screensaver!
Screensaver which shows toplists with postion and album cover during you play music.

Well, if we're going to go there, I'd rather had a screen saver that displays the album art of the current album along with the Name of the group, and the title of the currently playing song, not gliding across the screen, but staying put for a little bit and then moving slightly to a different position.

i bought eJukeBox several years ago and i am missing it now that i have renounced all microsoft applications. any chance that we might get a ported version for linux anytime soon?

Could it be possible to have control over the cross-fade function of Winamp 5 within eJukebox so that when an album is dragged and dropped into the playlist, this cross-fade is turned-off, hence playing like it would from a CD?