Audiosoft, I just installed the RC of IE9 64bit for win7, but now there is no more Right Click menu in the EJukebox songlist and albumlist.
Besides, i not noticed any speed improvements with this RC on the ejukebox song change anims. your page slides are still not working good in IE9, too slow..
Thanks.

pirk shake your u2u

well when i right click on a song or album now i get this:
And Drag & Drop is not working!

well well.. strangely the right click menu is there again, but still no drag and drop. it seems the .albumimageHI doesn't works good.

Thanks Pirk. Your 9 skin looks amazing i wish i could try it to get enthused. if i can find some time i will install the RC this weekend and try to work out those issues.
btw does drag work with the regular non ie9 standards A5 Vinyl skin?

I just tried with the A5 Vinyl skin, so ie9 standard: drag works normally. probably my skin uses too much tricks..

with IE9 the page slides are always very very jerky, even with the A5 Vinyl skin. Thanks.

i would have no problem open sourcing EJ if i got a big enough donation. until then EJ is my baby since it is all coded by me and i know how the code fits together.
frankly .dis css should continue to be open source so better skins can be created. don't you want to see more skins and let others design over old ones? maybe the skin edit menu was a bad idea. or maybe i should do away with the free trial and make an ultra lite free version.

Audiosoft, you misunderstood what i was meaning. it's not a question of open source or not: as i don't like my unclean .dis files i don't want to post them in state. if it was possible either to clean them and the skin images automatically. or if not possible, why not a way to hide the whole mechanism?

I found this to clean the css: http://cleancss.com/ i'm trying to play with it...

my skin currently use 45,2 Mb, and 684 files! do you see my problem?

i get it - extra images. having ej automatically deleting extra images not something i want to do.
don't worry about the .dis code - it is what it is. i think i posted a link to a css formatter on the forum at some point that can clean it up.

Why you don't want ej or a "skin maker" automatically deletes the extra images? that would help skinners like me by saving a lot of time! this is the major reason why i rarely post a skin... too much dirty work to do before to post a descent version! really.

well, i prefer to continue my big mess in the .dis and image files.. waiting for a possible skin builder!

I like much the sound of this album:

the skin Builder would "ONLY":
-optionally clean the .dis files and write the clean versions, or just copy the originals, to a new skin folder
-read each .dis files
-search for any "background-image:url(x.y);"
-copy(*) the corresponding images to the new skin folder
-search for any "font-family: z;"
-copy the corresponding fonts to the new skin folder
(*)option: rename the images on the fly

PS: Nothing is deleted or modified on the original skin folder. The skin builder would just be a tool that helps skinners to post new versions of their skin very easily.
Currently without this tool it is very difficult to sort out the correct files...

that would be nice. it would also have to copy over all the non dis images. would be difficult to automate...
also i don't think the font family really matches up with the font file name very often and the font might not be system installed and only in the skin. also we would not want standard font files like Arial being unnecessarily included in the skin.

well so you can avoid the fonts, the images are the most important. there is no problem with the file names in this case. i hope the automation is possible?

i could code something to extract the all images listed in the .dis files and copy them to another folder but don't know if that would be very useful?
one complication it would have to copy over the nonXversion.jpg when .dis has the horizontally stretched version of the image.

of course that would be useful because each time i work on my skin i add new images in the skin folder.. rapidly there are many many unused images! at the end, when i want to create a descent version of the skin, it's a pain to search for all the right images. if that was automated, i could take shots more regularly as skin candidates!

ok now attempting to code a .dis image extractor exe

wow great! Thanks a lot.

place disripper.exe in EJukeboximagesskinname folder
run the disripper.exe and click the button

it copies the images listed inside .dis files and the non stretched version of the image when it encounters X.jpg in the .dis

keep in mind it does not do the non .dis images or the colors.ini PNG= images.

wow that's so fast! it seems it works good.

i hope it can also copy the images which are not from the .dis files?

Quote:

Message original : Audiosoft you want to work on the open source code?

i can probably manage PNG= in colors.ini
for the other images...
getting it to detect only the correct image would i think require a
list in code of every image file name that might be used for the interface. which is a big task to figure out and input.

probably best in an array

interfaceimgs(1) = "visora1.png"
interfaceimgs(2) = "audio3on.gif"
interfaceimgs(3) = "visorcar.png"

or a flat txt file
visora1.png
audio3on.gif
isorcar.png

perfect if it can manage PNG= in colors.ini

for the other images, i think you could make a standard list including all the names used by ejukebox. you know all the .gif .jpg and .bmp that have fixed names.


PS: you also have this at the end of the songlist.dis:
[SongList]
PlayImage=
PlayOnImage=
ArtistArrowImage=
ArtistArrowOnImage=

and this at the end of the savedalbumlist.ini:
[albumlist]
bgimage0=

you know what...
i think i can rip EJ's load skin code and extract all the images file names with a slight modification to the code above
though this is bound to miss an image somewhere it should be able to generate a list of 95% of the images

Quote:

Message original : Audiosoft you know what... i think i can rip EJ's load skin code and extract all the images file names with a slight modification to the code above though this is bound to miss an image somewhere it should be able to generate a list of 95% of the images

well it worked but only when there was 1 image per line of code.
probably could rip most of the other image names with regular expressions
but there are also some instances when ej will accept gif, jpg or png.
thanks for reminding me about the bottom of the songlist with the ='s

thank you for making this image ripper!

ok here are the file names i got from using regular expression to extract from the skin loading code in EJ...
colors.ini
artistlist.dis
nowplaying.dis
albumlistscroll.dis
playlist.dis
songlist.dis
songlist-large.dis
songlist-Xlarge.dis
homeview.ini
savedalbumlist.ini

timeemptybg.jpg
timeelapsedbg.png
star1.png
star2.png
star3.png
star4.png
pickcountbar.png
blank.gif
tt_bottom.gif
tt_left.gif
tt_left.gif
tt_top.gif
TT_TOP.GIF
searchbox.jpg
np1.jpg
np2.jpg
np3.jpg
np4.jpg
superedv.jpg
TopEDV.jpg
lookup.jpg
playlistheader.jpg
artlistheader.jpg
leftborder.jpg
lsnglistbrd.jpg
lsnglistbrd.gif
rsnglistbrd.jpg
rsnglistbrd.gif
barrow1.gif
barrow2.gif
farrow1.gif
farrow2.gif
ptimeslider1.gif
ptimeslider2.gif
ffbutton1.gif
ffbutton2.gif
pausebutton1.gif
pausebutton2.gif
playbutton1.gif
playbutton2.gif
volbutton1.gif
volbutton2.gif
optionsbutton1.gif
optionsbutton2.gif
expbutton1.gif
expbutton2.gif
vizbutton1.gif
vizbutton2.gif
volslider.gif
volback.jpg
timeelapsed.jpg
timeempty.jpg
AlbumListHeader.jpg
AlbumListHeaderANI.gif
Top.jpg
Header.jpg
TopEDV.jpg
HeaderEDVa.jpg
HeaderEDV.jpg
shelfbg.jpg
listbac.jpg
listbacWIDE.jpg
listbacNORMAL.jpg
searchbutton.png
timeslider.png
volumeslider.png
volumetrack.png
visora1.png
visora2.png
visorcar.png
visoralbumlistbar.png
songlistshadow.png
webshadow.png

still missing?
looks like artist/albumslider.png and keyboard images are missing
PNG= images in colors.ini
and this at the end of songlist.dis
[SongList]
PlayImage=
PlayOnImage=
ArtistArrowImage=
ArtistArrowOnImage=
and this at the end of the savedalbumlist.ini:
[albumlist]
bgimage0=
...

well many file names!

Audiosoft, for some time the Right Click menu in the songlist doesn't work anymore. nothing happens when i right click over the songlist or the artistlist..
and the .albumimageHI {} doesn't work anymore. the album title goes "default settings" (something like times new roman black). is it since i installed the RC of ie9? or maybe a ejukebox update?

Otherwise have you made some progress in the "skin builder"?

Thanks.

well strangely loading another "non-ie9" skin then reloading my ie9 skin fixed the problem for the songlist temporarily, but not for the artistlist.
and the .albumimageHI {} text is still not working.

the right click menu is gone again... it is gone after ej failed to load the songlist-large. loading another skin doesn't work this time! but restarting ej it worked again.. except songlist-large and Xlarge:

the songlist Play Now feature is not working anymore with ie9... i don't know if it's since the RC or the last ej update.
it always plays the same song, probably the first song in the db.

and yeah am working on my skin again...

i don't know WHY since i installed the SP1 of win7 all the menus open to the left side??? they are crazy at Microsoft or what?!

[EDIT] well OK i fixed it with a reg file! whew..

looking good Pirk! weird about the menu alignment!
i should be able to get right click working....
quick question...does right click work with A5 Vinyl?
is it only IE9STANDARDS mode that it does not work?

can you try putting in
body {height: 100%;}
and seeing if right-click works?

fixed the songlist? did it fix right-click?

but it seems the "height: 100%;" trick doesn't work for my Artist list.

yeah it fixed the right click in songlist. well i hope it's really that which fixed it for good..

well i just noticed a new problem with the right click. the LINK is not the right one: in fact any album that i right-click gives me the same wrong link..

...
now extracts all .ini and .dis correctly

still needs to copy the folders albumpop and nowstars
and the big list of images which is still incomplete

Thanks. i really hope you are convinced of the usefulness of this tool, so you'll improve it!

this exe makes clean skin.zip's

Tools->Skin->Create Skin.zip

it will prompt you to make a clean zip Yes or No

you can test by renaming the zip to newname.zip and do Tools->Skin->newname
i think i got everything but there might be something...please let me know if you spot anything missing in the interface with the cleaned zip and i will add the file name so that it is copied to the zip

update:
so far the only problem detected with this exe is that searchboxon.jpg is not being copied to the zip.

Thanks a lot for this skin builder new feature Audiosoft. so i tried it frenetically!
well, a drawing is still better than a long explanation: too much cleaning!
i also noticed the cleaner don't clean the fonts. they are all copied in the zip, even these unused.

ok. in fact i think EJ stops the compression before the work is finished. EJ don't crash, but i get this message: "windows can't add one or several empty repertories in the compressed folder (zipped)"

ouch...
ok found the problem. EJ thought Windows was done with Compression... so the zip never finished being made. because it was waiting for "Compressing..." window and not yet also "Compression...". thanks your screen was a big help!

this exe fixes that and adds searchboxon.jpg

the fonts are problematic. yes it adds them all right now because the filename of the font is totally different from the font name used in the .dis and ini

Great! this time it worked a lot better! there are still a few background-image missing, but i think i know why these images are missing: in my skin i use multiple backgrounds allowed since ie9:
background-image: url(image1.png), url(image2.png), ... , url(imagez.png);

multiple backgrounds? what the?! do they layer on top each other?
problem with them is the cleaner can only process 1 file name from each line of .dis and .ini

see if this works in IE9 and the cleaner will get all 3.
background-image: url(image1.png),
url(image2.png),
url(imagez.png);

if i could get the font name from the font file then should EJ ignore all secondary fonts (LCD in this example) or include them?

font-family:bitsumishi, LCD, Arial, sans-serif;

trying to figure out...what is a positive hit for a font name?
if the name exists ANYWHERE in a .dis or ini ~ the font file is included
OR
if the name exists between : , or : ; when there are no commas between : and ;

RE: secondary backgrounds? what the?!
it works exactly like Photoshop with several png layers!

background:transparent;
background-color: hsla(210,100%,50%,.85);
background-image: url(image1.png), url(image2.png);
background-attachment: scroll, fixed;
background-position: 0% 1px, left top;
background-repeat: repeat, no-repeat;


RE: if i could get the font name from the font file then should EJ ignore all secondary fonts (LCD in this example) in the folder or include them?
font-family:bitsumishi, LCD, Arial, sans-serif;

if you can't get the font name from the font file, i could take care to rename the fonts i use i my skins to the same name than used in the .dis font-family: FONTNAME.ttf; but of course it's better if you manage to get the "official" font name automatically.
i think you can ignore the secondary fonts in the zip as normally they are not displayed.

RE: see if this works in IE9 and the cleaner will get all 3.
background-image: url(image1.png),
url(image2.png),
url(imagez.png);

YES, it works good!
note that it is possible to have more than 3 images layered together. i don't know the maximum allowed? well until now i think i only used 3 images.

Thanks!

Great! just give each background a line instead of all on one line. that way you can have as many as IE9 will allow and the cleaner will get them all.

don't worry about renaming the font files i found a way to get the name from them.

You are a god! thanks to your work on this i will be very relieved not having to sort images.

now i will "only" have the .dis files to clean manually: repeated instructions and others /* unused instructions */. i'll try more if any existing css validating tools can help me for that.

ugh i was wrong. i can only get the name from true type fonts. so skin will still be font heavy.
to get the font name the font must first be manually installed

there is a link somewhere on here to that online tool to clean css.
i will try to search for it...
couldn't find it. probably it doesn't work right with IE9 css anyway.
i think i have given up on making my .dis code look good there are more important things to worry about. sure i have repeat statements but the nice thing is IE9 parses it backward and ignores duplicates above.

mine can be really execrable! :D
i think if i leave it like that then it's not good for the skin life: later i have no desire to work on it again..

.titlehi {
width: 0px;
padding-top: 2px;
padding-bottom: 2px;
padding-left: 24px;
padding-right: 0px;

text-align:left;
cursor: url(Cursor-Hand-96no.cur), pointer;
font-family: blemished, ITC Avant Garde Gothic Demi, Century gothic, delicious,

blemished, Arial;
font-size:10pt;
font-weight:600;
line-height: 16px;
letter-spacing: 0px;
word-spacing: 0px;

color: hsla(204,100%,86%,1);
color: hsla(22,45%,13%,1);
color: hsla(0,100%,25%,1);
color: hsla(220,100%,30%,1);
color: hsla(30,100%,15%,0.85);
color: hsla(240,0%,100%,0.85);
color: hsla(32,92%,3%,.55);
color: hsla(20,56%,25%,1);
color: hsla(0,100%,27%,0.75);
color: hsla(240,0%,27%,1);
color: hsla(0,100%,32%,1);
color: hsla(20,56%,18%,1);
color: hsla(20,56%,0%,.60);
color: hsla(274,100%,25%,1);
color: hsla(300,100%,25%,1);
color: hsla(0,8%,10%,1);
color: hsla(300,100%,10%,1);
color: hsla(51,100%,10%,1);
color: hsla(300,100%,20%,1);
color: hsla(280,100%,28%,1);
color: hsla(300,100%,20%,1);
color: hsla(30,100%,10%,1);

/*color: hsla(0,100%,27%,1);*/
/*color: darkred;*/
/*color: hsla(33,19%,23%,1);*/
/*color: hsla(27,25%,23%,1);*/
/*color: hsla(30,93%,18%,.85);*/

/*color: hsla(22,45%,13%,1);*/
/*color: hsla(210,100%,100%,.99);*/

/*color: hsla(32,92%,20%,1);*/
/*color: hsla(22,45%,0%,.65);*/
/*height:16px;*/

background:transparent;

/*background-color: hsla(32,92%,49%,0.60);
background-color: hsla(50,48%,87%,0.75);
background-color: hsla(240,100%,40%,0.5);
background-color: hsla(32,92%,100%,0.50);*/


background:transparent;
background-color: hsla(38,70%,48%,.60);
/*background-color: hsla(240,100%,50%,.75);*/

background-image: url(alu3cyan23c.png), url(songbacHI.png);
background-attachment: scroll, fixed;
background-position: 0% -3px, left top;
background-repeat: repeat, repeat;


border-radius: 6px 14px 6px 14px;
/*border-radius: 80px 0px 20px 50px;*/
/*border-bottom-left-radius:4px 8px;*/

box-shadow:1px 1px 20px hsla(32,93%,0%,.65);

/*border-color: hsla(60,100%,90%,.35);
border-right-color: hsla(32,93%,100%,.10);
border-style: solid;
border-width: 1px 58px 4px 3px;*/
/*position: relative;*/
/*filter: shadow(color=#000000, direction=45, strength=1)
shadow(color=#000000, direction=135, strength=1)
shadow(color=#000000, direction=225, strength=1)
shadow(color=#000000, direction=315, strength=1)
;*/
border: 0px solid hsla(210,100%,100%,.5);
border-left: 2px solid hsla(32,93%,49%,.65);
border-right: 2px solid hsla(32,93%,49%,.65);
border: 2px solid hsla(32,93%,49%,.75);
border: 3px solid hsla(45,85%,62%,1);
border: 3px solid hsla(24,100%,50%,1);

/*border-left: 1px solid hsla(45,85%,62%,1);*/

/*border: 3px solid hsla(32,93%,0%,.5);*/


/*-ms-transform: translate(10px,0px) skew(0deg,0deg) scale(1,1) rotate(-1deg);*/
/*-ms-transform: skew(-6deg,0deg) scale(1.25,1) rotate(0deg) translate(40px,0px);*/
/*-ms-transform: scale(1.02,1.02);*/
position: relative;
top: 0px;
left: 0px;
z-index: 19;
-ms-transform: skew(-6deg,0deg) scale(1.6,1.4) translate(22px,0px) rotate(0deg);
/*border-top-left-radius: 6px;
border-bottom-left-radius: 6px;*/
border-radius: 8px 14px 6px 8px; /*8px 14px 6px 8px;*/
border-top-left-radius: 20px 30px;
border-bottom-left-radius: 20px 30px;
border-top-right-radius: 20px 30px;
border-bottom-right-radius: 20px 30px;

border: 3px solid hsla(32,93%,48%,0.65);
border: 2px solid hsla(54,77%,75%,0.60);

border-top-left-radius: 0px;

}

Audiosoft, maybe you could also add animated (or not) CURSORS to the cleaner?
cursor: url(Cursor-Hand-96no.cur), pointer;

to do what? replace all with that cursor?
can you attach .cur?
ie9 only right? i am on XP now

maybe you can use this to remove the extras from your .dis
http://www.cleancss.com/

the default setting worked good on your example...except you need to add the line break after each background image

a ie9 skin can use many cursors. the cursor can be different in each .abc{}
in my skin i added the animated cursors used in OSX!

cursor: url(Swirl.ani), pointer;

ah ha! here i added .cur and .avi as files for the cleaner to put in the zip when they are in a .dis or .ini

...booting to win7 to see these animated cursors for myself!

RE: maybe you can use this to remove the extras from your .dis
http://www.cleancss.com/

Many Thanks Audiosoft! i tried it. the result seems totally clean!

RE: ah ha! here i added .cur and .avi as files for the cleaner to put in the zip when they are in a .dis or .ini

Thanks a lot Audiosoft: it's .cur and .ani, not .avi!

oops ani not avi here is the fix

on win7 animated cursors were interesting...
but they really don't work everywhere do they?
it seems some places EJ override them with the Hand

RE: on win7 and animated cursors are interesting...
but they really don't work everywhere do they?
it seems some places EJ override them with the Hand

you are right animated cursors don't work everywhere, but i managed to override the Hand in the songlist adding the swirl.ani cursor in body{} and other cursors in .title{}...

cursors can be huge: i converted a few large pngs to cursors. not sure of the usability, but it works good!

ah well that's good you found a way for the songlist and that is a nice png...maybe cursor if there was an arrow at the top left

don't worry about breaking the multiple backgrounds into multiple lines anymore. this exe's create skin.zip gets all the files even when on a single line.
background-image: url(image1.png), url(image2.png), url(image3.png), url(image4.png); is ok now! just make sure cleancss.com does not delete the ini style values from the .dis.

btw watch out! cleancss.com incorrectly adds px to opacity changing opacity:0.5; to opacity:0.5px; which doesn't work. other than that and the ini name= values cleancss.com so far works perfect.

Great! thank you Audiosoft for these improvements, and for the warnings even if i already noticed. ok now the ball is in my camp!

i'm cleaning my skin.. noticed the EJ file cleaner forget to copy some images used in my playlist.dis:
animatedlaser.gif
music.jpg
bonobo-browser2.png
playlist-hover.png

i don't know if it failed because of these particular names?

another bug i noticed using the cleancss.com tool:
if you used "background-position:85% 102%, 35px 2px, 100% 0;"
the cleaner remove all the commas: "background-position:85% 102% 35px 2px 100% 0;" which does not work!

RE: commas

hmmm how are your playlist.dis formatted? like this?
background-image:url(moveto.gif);

yep the bug occurred with single images:
background-image:url(bonobo-browser2.png);

audiosoft.net/cleandis/
now the best way to clean .dis! it even handles opacity and those commas! and keeps the header/footer comments and footer [INIStyle] Name= values!

and this exe fixes the bug of missing playlist images in the skin.zip and adds 'Clean .dis' to the skin edit menu

wow great! Thanks.
so now it would just miss the fonts cleaning! if the .ttf can be recognized that would be already excellent for me. and you can copy all the .otf if they are not recognizable.

OK this exe only copies (to the skin.zip) the .ttf when its real font name (not filename) is found in the colors.ini as FontName=
or in the .dis as font (or font-family) between : and the first , or the ; if there is no ,
that should keep any unused .ttf out of the .zip!

this exe also now copies all .woff fonts
and like before it copies all .otf and all .fon

not working. should i rename my .ttf fonts first?

do not rename them.
grab the exe again there was a bug before it was only copying 1 tff. now it should copy all that are used and ignore secondary fonts after the comma

seems to work good: my skin passed from 90 .ttf fonts to only 9. very efficient!

so now i can focus all my efforts to the skin appearance. i like that! a few little (experimental) things still need to be fixed, then the "upload of the year" should finally occur. Thanks!

Great!

one more thing...
this exe will copy (to the skin.zip) any fonts referenced in the .dis or .ini that are 'installed in windows' but are not in the imagesskin folder!
this works for all font file extensions and all Windows XP standard fonts are prevented from being copied to the .zip.

it will only copy a missing font to the zip when the .dis or .ini contains the FULL font name registered with windows. i.e. using 'Segoe UI' works and copies the file to .zip but the Segoe UI Bold, Segoe UI Bold Italic font files are not copied with it so may still need to be manually added to imagesskin . Whenever possible use the full font name in the .dis and .ini so that the font is automatically added to the zip. The ColorPicker now has a FontView button that creates a preview list of the fonts installed in windows along with the css to use in the .dis. if you use that font-family: then the Create Skin.zip will automatically copy the font file to the skin for you.

this exe also fixes a recently introduced bug where the skin.zip you just created was then installed into the imagesskin the next time you clicked the Tools button...over writing any .dis changes since Create skin.zip. now, like before, the newly created skin.zip is not re-installed unless you rename the zip file.

there was still a bug with Tools reloading the skin.zip
this one is good...

wow great idea your font viewer! seems to work good.

"using 'Segoe UI' works and copies the file to .zip but the Segoe UI Bold, Segoe UI Bold Italic font files are not copied": well it's a pity.

otherwise when in full screen (or not!) the ScrollBar is a bit out of the screen:

yes tis but keep in mind "Segoe UI Bold Italic" works as font-family: Segoe UI Bold Italic;
if you use that then the font file automatically gets added to the zip.
it is only when use font-family: Segoe UI; and you add font-weight: bold; that you must add the Segoe UI Bold's file to imagesskin

if you use the FontView to pick out fonts and copy the font-family:etc then you don't have to worry about including the file for the font.

glad you like the FontView! sorry about the scrollbar...it looks right on XP. i thought why not preview every possible font instead of making the user pick from a drop down box 1 at a time....and so FontView was born

ok thanks for the explanations. in the future probably FontView will spare me to add tons of fonts in the skin folder! Thanks.

your welcome!
time for me to get some sleep...when i wake up i will probably release that exe as v5.61

ok i'll try to upload my skin during your sleep. Sweet Dreams!

it seems in v5.61 that using the long font-family: css found in FontView does Not display the font in IE9Standards mode...they only work in quirks mode
ColorPicker's Test Bed proves it. if we wanted every variant font for .ttf to be copied to the zip (i don't think we do) then there would be no need for the FontView font name; which copies 1 font file. to get around IE9 not liking the name we could use font-family: IE9 font name; font-copy: FontView font name; and it will both work and auto add the font file to the zip. i can add the .ttf's IE9 acceptable font name to FontView's css but i have no way yet to get .otf's name.

on a happier note...here is a trick for the songlist.dis that prevents long genres from wrapping and causing less song titles to fit on the screen.

.genre div { width: 115px; TEXT-OVERFLOW: ellipsis; WHITE-SPACE: nowrap; OVERFLOW: hidden;}
.genrehi div { width: 115px; TEXT-OVERFLOW: ellipsis; WHITE-SPACE: nowrap; OVERFLOW: hidden;}

can test that with with: 55px; and you always get a ...

well if already the unused fonts are removed i can live with that!
i'm still fighting with my songlist... .titlehi and .titleedithi

yes at least now it gets rid of unused .ttf
good luck with your .titlehi's
here is the one i am playing with for IE9. no images just css so far...it extends a little to the right of the title over the rating and looks a little like an arrow to the playlist.

.titleedithi {
text-decoration:none;
height:20px;
font-size:14px;
font-family:Arial, Helvetica, san-serif;
letter-spacing:-1px;
font-weight:700;
line-height:15px;
cursor:pointer;
background-position:left 50%;
background-repeat:no-repeat;
background-image:url();
color:hsla(60,100%,90%,0.6);
text-align:left;
background:transparent;
background-color:rgba(111,111,61,0.05);
border-top:3px inset rgba(222,111,61,0.1);
border-left:3px inset rgba(111,111,61,0.1);
border-right:3px inset rgba(111,111,61,0.1);
border-bottom:3px inset rgba(222,111,61,0.1);
border-radius:100% 10% 100% 100%;
box-shadow:inset 13px 3px 30px hsla(160,100%,70%,0.3);
border-top-left-radius:100% 100%;
border-top-right-radius:50% 50%;
border-bottom-right-radius:50% 50%;
border-bottom-left-radius:100% 100%;
zoom:122%;
border-color:#000;
border-style:solid;
border-width:0;
margin:0;
padding:0 0 0 5px;
}

i'm doing the same thing: .titlehi overlapping under the rating. i still need to found a good variant for .titleedithi

for .titleedithi, do you like this color?

or would you prefer this version?

yes! i have found a way to get the font name from most .otf and .fon files. so now EJ will also keep most unused .otf and .fon files like .ttf out of the skin.zip. this exe does that and updates FontView to make the list alphabetical and adds the css for font-copy: which holds the name associated with the individual font file for 'add missing fonts'. when that name is the same then only font-family appears because that is all that is needed to copy the file. Also the FontView now renders the fonts using IE9Standards mode since fonts look better that way

yep i also noticed fonts looking really better with IE9 standards!
glad you managed to improve the fonts handling in skins.

and this exe handles .dis that has no line breaks...
font-copy: TektonPro-BoldObl; font-family: Tekton Pro;
was not including the font in the .zip with the last exe because there was no line break between the 2. now it is all good!

also the FontView scrollbar should no longer be clipped on Win7

v5.61 official installers have been updated with the new exe

you are the best!
i just noticed the alphabetical order in fontview doesn't work with some fonts?
thanks for the right border!

hmm well it is sorted by the full name registered with windows for the font file. it seems there is nothing between font-copy: ; on top ones...so it must not have a name somehow that is why it is at the top.

if you want you can see if those have a name listed in:
run regedit
and browse to
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINESOFTWAREMicrosoftWindows NTCurrentVersionFonts

well ok.. it's not a big problem. thanks for the explanations!

Guys, i think i am about to Open Audiosoft's EJukeBox!



Stay tuned...

PS: Don't worry it's just a skin... well The Skin!

excited for your new skin Pirk!
Unleash the Beast!!!

Audiosoft, before i Unleash the Beast, i would need some more help for my Playlist skinning:
could you update EJukebox to avoid Similar Album Icons Repetition in the playlist? i think we could show Track Lengths instead of any repeated album icon. the playlist would look better and more functional (less wasted height), especially as now in my skin the album icons are much Enlarged via css instructions!

If that can help: each time that "playlisttrunc.gif" is displayed you replace the album icon on the same line by the track length. Easy!

hmm well i don't know if that is a good idea for every skin
but i should be able to add an option for that in the playlist.dis
are you going to be here for a new exe 1 hour from now?

ah great if you can add a option for that! thanks a lot.

1 hour? well normally i should not stay active very late tonight, but i'll wait for this good cause!

ok well i should have it for you in about 15 minutes

perfect!

the magic code for the bottom of playlist.dis is...

[ShowTrackLengthsNotRepeatIcons]
Enable=1

ok i already added the new option in my playlist! i don't know if that will work good with your new exe just adding that in my playlist?

That code in the playlist.dis should work good when the user's display option is set to show album icons...which is the default.

ok i'm trying your new exe. well it works but the rows with playlisttrunc.gif are also enlarged even if there is no album icons in them. i would need a way to differentiate those with album icons than those without. maybe if you can add a specific .NotRepeatIcons {}

i use this in playlist.dis to enlarge album icons:

.playlist0 img,
.playlist1 img,
.playlisthi img,
.playlisthinew img,
.playlistmoveup0 img,
.playlistmoveup1 img,
.playlistmovedn0 img,
.playlistmovedn1 img {
width:80px;
height:80px;
border-radius:4px;
margin-top: 4px;
position:relative;
top:-2px;
margin-left:-27px;

}

hmmm does it work in this?

.cover img {
}

or maybe just

.cover {
}

well with your 2 ways i get this: covers are not enlarged

.cover img {
width:80px;
height:80px;
border-radius:4px;
margin-top: 4px;
position:relative;
top:-2px;
margin-left:-27px;
}

this last one works better but it breaks the up next cover (normally i also enlarged it to 135x135)

new exe so you can use in the playlist.dis

#coverbig {
width:180px;
height:180px;
}

no, covers don't shrink. the new exe works better for up next cover, but the problem is with the extra-width on the left side of each cover. before i reduced it using margin-left:-27px; but since your new exe(s) it seems that doesn't work anymore?

really? they don't shrink when you put the mouse over the covers or click them?

i will fix that margin.

no the size remains the same when i mouse over or click on the covers.

great if you can fix the extra width.

wow that is interesting. under IE8 they change size but with this exe not anymore. this also fixes the margin issue.

Thanks! this exe works good. even if it still remains 1 extra pixel on the left side of the covers.

great! i think i know what is causing the extra pixel so that should be fixed in the next exe

i am also going to add code to allow for
#coversmall { } to override the smaller icon sizes for when Not using...

ah ok, when you are at it.

a future update could be we have Autoplay modes which can list several titles and covers.. but it's another story!

i will try to upload my skin this week(!)

great looking forward to it!
yes i too would like to figure out some way to enhance the "Next" on AutoPlay.

i like much the new playlist with large covers:
i noticed the extra-width is only fixed for the First Page of the playlist!

Thanks again for your updates "on the fly"!

i like your new playlisttrunc!

when you get a chance...try this exe and let me know if the extra width is fixed for you

also i have made some changes
this is better because you don't have to worry about the position in the playlist.dis

use .pmnextsongright img {} instead of #upnextcover
use #coverbig { width:37px; } instead of #cover

this exe fixes the width to #coverbig's width: and now centers the #coversmall icons by default for all all skins

Great! your v5.62 Beta works good Audiosoft.
i also tried to mix large and small covers using: [ShowTrackLengthsNotRepeatIcons] Enable=0
looking good too! and it appears that there is room for track length and small covers juxtaposed! i don't know if you'll be hot to allow that? i think the playlist would look even better, and more functional!

glad you like my playlisttrunc.gif! maybe you could also allow playlisttrunc.PNG?

Many Thanks!

Pirk, actually with the right-align i preferred your 'blank.gif' playlisttrunc

with this exe
this works to set the font for the track length:

#tracklength {
FONT-FAMILY: Arial;
font-size: 12px;
}


and so that EJ can show the track length to left of the cover image in the playlist.dis...
[ShowTrackLengthsNotRepeatIcons] has been removed and changed to:

[coverbig]
ShowTrackLength=0

[coversmall]
ShowTrackLength=1
ShowIcon=1

you can even put track length on top of the covers with this example code http://www.audiosoft.net/forums/viewthread.php?tid=762&page=4#pid82436

...

the mixing of covers and track length now works good. Thank you Audiosoft. i also changed my playlisttrunc!

Audiosoft, could you add a way to center the playlist titles Vertically? i mean each title individually in its row, without adding a "padding-bottom", so the lines are not more height than necessary and more titles are visible. Thanks.

PS: I suggest you this site: http://www.zahia.com/
and this video in particular: the-cat-cave-video

something like this might work if you put it at the end on playlist.dis
http://www.w3schools.com/css/pr_pos_vertical-align.asp


td
{
vertical-align:middle;
}


btw there is a cool slide animation but i don't see any videos at your link?

well i've tried your trick, but no success: with vertical-align:middle; no change, titles are still not centered. maybe the image playlisttrunc.gif interfere?

no video? weird for me it plays good! it's in Flash.

does line-height: do anything?
or setting padding-top: 1px; and padding-bottom: 1px;

btw it seems border-radius and especially box-shadow are what makes background videos slow hopefully IE10 will be better

line-height: do what it is supposed to do, but the titles are still not centered.
i already tried padding-top: 1px; and padding-bottom: 1px; no success.

maybe there is something in the html which shift down texts in the playlist?

make sure you are not using 'position: relative;' on the .playlist0 .playlist1

i removed position: relative; in playlist0 and 1 but still no success.

0 and 1 remove any top: or bottom: in them
vertical-align: middle;

RE maybe there is something in the html which shift down texts in the playlist?

i doubt it because in all other skins the text is in the middle.

even your screen before last the text was close to the middle. what did you change?
in your 2nd screen...the covers are no longer aligned with the right side

seems to me that if you get rid of 'all extra height' then they have to be in the middle

RE: seems to me that if you get rid of 'all extra height' then they have to be in the middle

not exactly! the "problem" is there. why texts are not centered naturally in the playlist? i don't have this problem in the songlist.

thanks Pirk you are right again!
try this #title actually controls the playlisttrunc image but it seems to make the text in the middle when you set the trunc to the middle. going to make this the default in v5.64 so that it fixes all new and old skins so it aligns the playlist titles to the middle

#title {
vertical-align: middle;
padding-top:0px;
padding-bottom:0px;
}

Great! i think you solved my problem! Thanks a lot.

you deserve a glimpse of my new playlist!

Thanks Pirk!
Looks AMAZING I can't wait to try it!

i am not proud of yellowjacket. it is kind of ugly
i think now i will try to redo NeoBlues for IE9

yeah i'm very happy that my playlist can work more decently! but now the worst is my songlist.. so now i'll work on the songlist a bit more. i think i'll post something this week even if unfortunately all the parts are not totally coherent together. Thanks again for your so precious help!

your welcome Pirk!

well since microsoft still has not implemented text-shadow...
try this exe and add this to your songlist.dis
it does a double strike of the text under the .title,hi,edithi

.titletextshadow { color: #000000; padding-left: 1px; padding-top: 1px; }

for IE9 skins i recommend a semitransparent color for the shadow text and can use filters to make it look like a blurred text-shadow instead of just a double strike of the text

.titletextshadow { color: hsla(60,100%,0%,0.6); padding-left: 1px; padding-top:1px;
filter: glow(color=#000000,strength=2) progid:DXImageTransform.Microsoft.MotionBlur(strength=2, direction=310) progid:DXImageTransform.Microsoft.Blur(pixelradius=2);
}

ah good idea Audiosoft! so i tried your palliative in my songlist, and it seems only the first solution (without filter) works for me. the shadow with the additional filters don't work, at least in my skin: ejukebox freezes (50% cpu). i also noticed even without filter that the additional 1px padding can produce undesired "carriage returns", or rather the contrary:

EDIT: well it's not the padding. i tried without and the same problem occurs.

however the effect can be interesting!

hmm thanks for the screens....i see that problem with the text wrapping now. i will try to fix it the best possible when i wake up. for now if you like you can test if this exe makes any difference on IE9

a new exe, thanks! well, good night. (it seems it's worst)

check it out! i dreamed up a fix! :D

with this exe it now automatically wraps the shadow text to match the font/size/zoom in the .title, .titlehi, .titleedithi

in songlist.dis

.titletextshadow { color: hsla(60,100%,0%,0.6); padding-left: 1px; padding-top:1px;
filter: glow(color=#000000,strength=2) progid:DXImageTransform.Microsoft.MotionBlur(strength=2, direction=310) progid:DXImageTransform.Microsoft.Blur(pixelradius=2);
}

it works good, but for me only without the filters, which is already better than nothing!
maybe you could allow .titletextshadow, .titleHItextshadow and .titleedithitextshadow? so i could use different colors.

with the filters: i can see the shadow effects only once, then ej freezes just after it has shadowed my songlist.

hmm i wonder why the filter is not showing for you. maybe your cool first letter? or maybe because you have position: in .title? or a .title span?
filter is doing the same thing on IE8 skins - they disappear after a second

they work on my IE9 skin...

ok you are right, your shadow filters don't like first-letter and -ms-transform: scale(). if i remove these options it works normally.

this code gets the first letter and transform working with it

.titletextfilter:first-letter{color:#FFFFFF; font-size: 130%;} //make sure not to make the font-size too big or the shadow will look offset.
.titletextfilter { -ms-transform: rotate(5deg);} //use here or in .title, hi, edithi...transform works with only Blur filter in .titletextshadow or no filter
.titletextshadow { color: hsla(60,100%,0%,0.6); padding-left: 1px; padding-top:1px; filter: progid:DXImageTransform.Microsoft.Blur(pixelradius=3);}

//do not include this because IE9 freezes .titletextshadow:first-letter{}

so now we have text-shadow for the song titles!
it is better...hopefully we can have real text-shadow on ALL texts with IE10!

btw you can flip the video backgrounds!
#BGVideo {opacity:1;
-ms-transform: rotate(180deg); }

if i replace ".title :first-letter" by ".titletextfilter:first-letter" ej don't freeze anymore.
it seems the shadow in ".titletextshadow { color: hsla(60,100%,0%,0.6); padding-left: 1px; padding-top:1px; filter: progidXImageTransform.Microsoft.Blur(pixelradius=3);}" don't work for me: no freeze, but no Blur for me.

yeah Blur really doesn't do much you need this

filter: glow(color=#000000,strength=2) progid:DXImageTransform.Microsoft.MotionBlur(strength=2, direction=310) progid:DXImageTransform.Microsoft.Blur(pixelradius=2);

but it only works if you do not transform the titles

it is really the best possible until text-shadow

ok thanks. i will try to play more with all that!

here is what i get currently: i start to tame the shadow and filters! some filters are working good, even if the shadow is not always perfect.

the only problem is my .titlehi, using zoom: 130%;, works good only with one line song titles. if there are more than one line the height of the background is reduced instead of enlarged.. maybe you have a solution?

a strange thing i noticed: when the album cover is more height than all the album titles, .titlehi backgrounds are enlarged good! so probably there is a solution, but how?

Audiosoft maybe have you an idea?

Your songlist is looking great... i am impressed!
the misalign is because the shadow text does not have the first letter. (also the padding: 1px; might make it wrap different). the way that adds first letter to the shadow causes IE9 to freeze so i think we are stuck with it until text-shadow actually works. the only fix until then is decreasing the first letter size or maybe padding-left: ++px; in the .titletextshadow

Thanks. the problem is the background in .titlehi is not zoomed in height (only in width) contrary to the text. so more there are lines for a song title, more height for its background is lacking. this problem don't occur when the total height of the song titles is < to the album cover height! (cf. the Sepultura capture)
maybe there would be a way to enlarge the .titlehi background in height? an expression or any magic formula? a div?

i don't know. height: 100%? change it to a different image for the zoom?
microsoft removed expression support in IE9

btw v5.64 will produce even less global warming...
now when video is fullscreen or shelf3d is fullscreen it pauses the VU and the backgrounds...also when a focused window is onTop and covering > 1/2 of EJ. before it just stopped them when EJ was minimized.

ok, thanks for these improvements. i don't know if that will be sufficient!

...adding some DIV seems to help much:

my problem with the background height is solved adding a .titlehi DIV, but i still can't get the shadow to work when more than one line:

Here is a mouse-over effect: i'm working on!

the song backgrounds are very extensible, if need be!

mouse over song titles starts to work better too!
next i think a "add to playlist" effect will be welcome... then maybe this skin will be almost finished. oh well.. no work on the video links yet!

we can always improve!

...

...

great! i love the purple highlight! nice work!

MS working on better gradients for IE10...
http://blogs.msdn.com/b/ie/archive/2011/05/04/css3-gradients-in-ie10-platform-preview-1.aspx

nothing beats real use! i still need to "upgrade" my .titleedithi, and video links too.. well as i don't use them much (slow connection..), maybe i'll ignore.

Quote:

Message original : Audiosoft great! i love the purple highlight! nice work! MS working on better gradients for IE10... http://blogs.msdn.com/b/ie/archive/2011/05/04/css3-gradients-in-ie10-platform-preview-1.aspx

other than small problems i love the new .titletextshadow
for album names? would be nice if all text could have text-shadow without the issues. with all the highlights it is not really possible when there is an image in the same box as the text...until IE10. i tried in the artist list to make a shadow and it is very problematic. .titletextshadow is a hack...2 texts in the box when it should only need 1. Microsoft must add text-shadow in IE10!

ok we will wait until ie10 using your hack! i was dreaming innocently the .titletextshadow can work everywhere with the same code.

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